For some reason java is all updated but wont load applets still? Need to reset your default java engine? this is sometimes needed if you have several versions of sun java and virtual machine. /~e2c/defaultvm.html has details. if the applet will not load or tells you to load virtual machine and you HAVE already.. try e2c's default vm fix.....

keep in mind, yahoo prefers to use MS VM.... Sun VM/Java doesn't seem to work as well for MOST.

don't worry :) a quick download and you will be back in java chat soon (or in games, mail whatever the java prob was) ........please read this all the way before you do anything!!!!!! and click here if you need to do .....windoz updates 

Current VM version is 3810 ~ from  MS  UPDATE NOW!

CabPool Links

MSJavWU.exe

MSJavWU.exe

Need 3805 or 3809? Microsnot says tuff.  If you look around someone may have a personal copy backed up somewhere you can get. * most who need 3805 have reformatted to win 95 or win 98 SE and win updates REFUSES to update their vm ~ stating they need 3805 first, but they wont make 3805 available...... are we having fun yet :-) Several folks recently wandered into help chat because games would not load and one had a 31xx version of vm.... and win updates would NOT update until they found 3805..... hope Microsnot fixes that. * this is what i get for trying to be helpful and help folks stay on MSVM.. their preferred VM....

http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html  is an option if you aren't demanding the MSVM .. if you do decide to  load the sun java, you will need to make sure you disable the MS vm we are told........ apparently there can be conflicts.

save the file to disc ( on a dial up 56k connect this will take about 15-20 minutes) it will save as POP.exe ` this is an effort on my part to keep the bandwidth thieves at bay . save it someplace you can find it in case you need to re-run the installer for some reason, or cant install immediately after downloading.

and when its finished. ......close ALL applications.....no isp connection, no chat, no browser......

then go to c\my downloaded files..... (or where ever it saved to) and click the msjavx86.exe file to install it.  (or whatever file is called.. like pop.exe )

sometimes it also auto installs once download is complete

you will be prompted to reboot. now...... a tip here..  there  have been reports of better success if you reinstall the file again ~  personally i did find it helped me on my oldest comp. just a tip.

then go when you reconnect to the 'net.....and come back to chat, just select the java version of chat.

if it still drops you in html chat:( or wont load still !!  try this to update yahoo chat ......

 go to c\windows\ downloaded program files.......and find the yahoo chat file

right click it.....select update.........  then try chat again......

you may want to even try selecting remove , reboot then return to chat and accept new downloads.

ONLY FOR BRAVE!!!!! 

still wont let you in java? double check that java is enabled here....by clicking start/settings/control panel/internet options/on the advanced tab.

still no java:( unfortunately for some....java just wont work...... but there are some nice programs called clients....also free...that don't use java for chat......... see screen images and some details about each at my clients page ~ this maybe due to problems with the isp.. especially if you use cable or dsl.

What version of virtual machine do i have?

After you install Virtual Machine you can check (Incoming VM Version) and (Existing VM Version) C:\Windows\vminst.log file using WordPad and look for these two lines, Existing VM Version and Incoming VM Version (about 10-12 lines down). or from Start, Run C:\Windows\notepad vminst.log  < this will work also.

a second way to check.... ~ thanks E2C

The easiest way to find the VM version for Windows 2000 is to do a search for the MSJAVA.DLL file and then look at the properties of it for the version.  You can go to start, programs, accessories, system tools, system information, software, and likely find it under that heading also but it is just as easy usually to look up the dll file in the search.

Virtual machine: this is the name given to Microsoft's java engine. XP does not come with it btw... it was in service pack one though.

Java : a programming language used to create interactive element son websites, like chat and games applets. It is not to be confused with javascript.

this is the file you need as well to fix your comp if you deleted the teddybear file... it is not a virus.. is a critical component of windows....

don't use internet explorer browser? then you need to update to Netscape browser version 4.76 at http://www.netscape.com version 7.0 is not recommended especially if you want to voice chat. use a mac? check here   and opera and the big Y don't get along for chat :( sorry 

USE DSL? call your provider to make sure they support the dynamic java~ some are growing so fast they cant keep up....

An influx of cable and dsl users who could not use java chat at all lead had us puzzled. (despite virtual machine updates and windows criticals ) While wandering around some OLD help pages, we noted a line about dynamic java connections and some isps not supporting them...... a light bulb went off. and the chase was on.... 

Several phone calls, emails and im's later the answer was confirmed. Due to the incredible growth of DSL and cable internet service, SOME providers in SOME areas are unable to assure dynamic java connections to SOME users. This means is is not always the chat provider or your computer preventing you from accessing a site or option on the net. Most providers are working hard to improve and implement this, but you may initially sacrifice some java functions for speed. "So I just cant use java chat", you say.

Well actually you can be locked out of accessing your bank accounts online, some mail providers, online games and more. So if you are considering DSL or cable upgrades on your ISP ~ ask them how they are doing on the java. 

Question: Help i am getting java errors, and told i need to updated java! but i did. both sun and ms java are on my comp!

Answer:  You need to reset your default java engine? this is sometimes needed if you have several versions of sun java and virtual machine. defaultvm.html has details.

What up with the java situation? why is it so hard to get from MS now?

In March of 2002, Sun Microsystems sued Microsoft, alleging in part that distributing the Microsoft VM in Windows XP to customers who wanted it via the Web was not authorized by Microsoft's license and therefore constituted copyright infringement.  Microsoft chose to stop as requested by Sun, and did so as of July 10, 2002. Practically speaking, for Windows XP users who do not have the Microsoft VM and want a copy, there will be a short period from July 10 to the time Microsoft is able to make it available again through Service Pack 1 during which Windows XP users will be unable to get a virtual machine from Microsoft.” * courtesy Ctechie.